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16 January 2008 @ 10:09 pm
Torchwood  
Just watched the first episode of the new Torchwood series, which provided additional proof that any TV series can be improved 100% by hiring James Marsters. 

But I still can't stand Gwen.  Definitely in my top ten of Most Annoying TV Character Ever.
 
 
 
tickledpink1705tickledpink1705 on January 16th, 2008 10:36 pm (UTC)
Hi!
Therefore, Torchwood is 200% ace - lol. I never normally use the word 'ace' but - according to tonight, i do! lol

As for James - he was very good... I have Buffy sat on my hard drive - just haven't gotten round to getting past the pilot, which is a shame. I will watch it.

I disagree about Gwen, but I know where your'e coming from.

ACE ACE ACE!

X
suffolkgirlsuffolkgirl on January 17th, 2008 09:52 pm (UTC)
My hatred of Gwen is quite irrational, she just gets on my nerves! :)

Definitely a good start to the second series, and it looks like James Marsters will be in other episodes too.

And I thoroughly recommend Buffy. It was my TV obsession before BSG.
phdelicious: DW_Jackphdelicious on January 16th, 2008 11:50 pm (UTC)
We're going to have to agree to disagree about Gwen (my least fav is Owen) but I'm glad to hear the new Torchwood ep was good. I cleared out space on my hard drive this weekend so I would have room for the new season.
suffolkgirlsuffolkgirl on January 17th, 2008 09:54 pm (UTC)
It was a very good episode. I thought the quality of episodes varied a lot last series, so was glad this one started out well.

Gwen just irritates the hell out of me - probably because the show's always telling us how wonderful she is, but my hatred for her really has no rational basis. :D
silwyna: Herbstwaldsilwyna on January 17th, 2008 09:10 am (UTC)
I'm still waiting to see this show. I read somewhere that James Marsters would be in it. I'd love to see him again. Is he going to be a regular or only a guest star?
suffolkgirlsuffolkgirl on January 17th, 2008 09:56 pm (UTC)
Well he's in the cast list for next week in my TV guide, so it looks as if he might be appearing regularly. I can but hope...
Did they show the first series in Germany?
silwyna: Herbstwaldsilwyna on January 18th, 2008 10:22 pm (UTC)
No, not yet. I'm still waiting for it to air here. :o(

Germany's free TV is always way behind with new series. For example, they have only shown the first season of BSG so far; a friend of mine was totally surprised when I told him that in the US the fourth season would start soon.
thrace_adams: Buffy upsetthrace_adams on January 17th, 2008 09:03 pm (UTC)
DARN DARN DARN DARN DARN!!!! Why oh why can't we Americans get shows like this????? Still trying to figure out a way to tell hubs I put this on our DVD list LOL
suffolkgirlsuffolkgirl on January 17th, 2008 09:58 pm (UTC)
Well they definitely showed the first series of Torchwood in the US, so hopefully you'll get the second one before too long.
thrace_adams: Buffy upsetthrace_adams on January 17th, 2008 09:59 pm (UTC)
Yes, they showed it on the BBC America...unfortunately we don't get that channel *stamps foot* Have to look for it on DVD :(
tracyj23: Wavetracyj23 on January 18th, 2008 12:33 pm (UTC)
I hear you. I detest Gwen with a PASSION. In fact after watching the first two episodes of season 1 I quit because I hated her so much. Still don't like her, but the hubby decided we should give season 2 a try (since he'd heard the show had improved), and I can't say I'm impressed with the man to man action. Yes, James Marsters (is that his name? I've never seen him before) is definitely good and adds to the show but I'm not into watching that sort of thing, and since he's apparently a recurring character for season 2 it looks like there will be more of it. So count me out.
(Anonymous) on January 18th, 2008 04:20 pm (UTC)
Glad to hear I'm not alone with the Gwen detestation. And you quit watching before she started cheating on that poor boyfriend of hers, which was where I started really disliking her.

James Marsters played Spike in Buffy, I suppose the Torchwood people are hoping casting him will bring in the Buffy fans. My problem with the man to man action is that it always seems forced to me in Torchwood - 'ooh, look at us, we're so daring' rather than arising naturally from the story.
stardust_20: Lee - frak mestardust_20 on January 18th, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
seems forced to me in Torchwood - 'ooh, look at us, we're so daring' rather than arising naturally from the story.

Exactly. That's how I was feeling too. I know John Barrowman leans that way in real life, but does James Marsters? Because it just didn't feel real to me.

Mind you, I don't really like woman on woman action either - I guess it's just me. I'm not particularly keen on that sort of thing and it usually does feel forced, as though they're trying to prove something instead of having it happen naturally like you said.

I was confused with Jack's 'leanings' in the episode actually. Here he is, obviously having had a relationship with John, coming on to one of the other guys (the guy in teh pink shirt - I don't know them well enough to know names), acting like he's jealous about Gwen being engaged ... what are we supposed to think? That Jack will frak anything that breathes? Would he have gone for the blowfish too?
suffolkgirlsuffolkgirl on January 18th, 2008 09:14 pm (UTC)
what are we supposed to think? That Jack will frak anything that breathes?

I suspect that's what we are supposed to think - when he was on Doctor Who he flirted with both Rose and the Doctor. Who knows, maybe he would have gone for the blowfish!

But yes, I was confused by this episode too. Him asking out Ianto (pink shirt guy) followed on from some flirting between them last series, but the Gwen jealousy was out of left field - there hasn't really been any romantic stuff between them at all, she was sleeping with Owen most of last series.

Russell T Davies does seem to be making bisexuality a bit of a theme in Torchwood though - both Ianto and Tosh also had relationships with both men and women last series - so if it's not your thing, then I don't think Torchwood is the series for you.
tracyj23: BSG - Lee - thinkingtracyj23 on January 19th, 2008 01:12 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. I think perhaps I'll avoid the rest of it. :)
sld23: Torchwood Gunscentaurea on January 18th, 2008 08:45 pm (UTC)
"Ohhh, that's gorgeous!"
"That's a poodle."
"IT'S NICE!"

Loved it!
suffolkgirlsuffolkgirl on January 18th, 2008 09:17 pm (UTC)
LOL, there were definitely some great lines in the episode. Let's hope next week is equally entertaining - last series I felt the episodes varied in quality a lot.
sld23: Torchwood Gunscentaurea on January 19th, 2008 04:27 am (UTC)
I agree with you. Some were just meh, while others were moody and disturbing, in a good way. I thought this one was pretty entertaining, but storywise not that great. It was obvious he was using them--the best part was how menacing he was. That, I didn't expect.